Friday, April 15, 2022

The Collective Wooing of Mary Miles Minter

One of the more endearing anecdotes in Baltasar Cue's, The True Rudolph Valentino is the story of the collective wooing of actress Mary Miles Minter by Ralph Graves, Douglas Gerrard and Rudolph Valentino; an account shared by Douglas Gerrard himself and therefore a first-hand account.

Ms. Minter was at the height of her fame and glory when this took place and about to step into her Hollywood murder, mayhem and who-done-it immortality.

I think Rudolph Valentino seems so earnest here with his offering of Italian gold... pasta! I appreciate Cue went ahead and finished his book after Rudolph died and I appreciate Renato translating the book in English.

Mary Miles Minter (see below) in a photograph taken in 1917 around the time this wooing took place:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Miles_Minter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Desmond_Taylor

From The True Rudolph Valentino by B. Cue, pp. 58-61: 



18 comments:

  1. Wow, Mintner was quite the precocious little minx! And really, Gerrard was quite the wonderful friend to Valentino. For those who continue to denigrate Cue’s bona fides, the Mintner incident was relayed in the Villalobos dissertation. Tracy Ryan, since I know you are reading this, I implore you to explain your chutzpah in supposing that your judgment is superior to that of the Valentino family representative. Where does your nerve in impugning the soundness of her Phd sourcing originate? Your silence on this subject is deafening.

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    1. Makes one also wonder why it is so difficult to get a copy. Did they burn every copy? I am glad we got our copy before they tossed the last one into the fire.

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    2. Deafening indeed !

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    3. The whole chain of events with the dissertation is beyond odd. It was to have been the prelude to a full length book on Valentino’s life. That never happened. Also odd, was the author’s occasional appearance on the forum We Never Forget, to talk about her project. She was verbally assaulted by a couple of ill mannered boors who made vile accusations about her motivations. More shocking than the ugliness of the boors however, was the fact that neither of the administrators intervened to call out their beastliness. It was beyond belief. Sadly, it appears that these forum explosions influenced the author to cancel her book. Why would she give a damn about such people? Utterly mystifying.

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    4. I think there would have been many questions to answer going forward. Ullman, those stolen court records, Alberto's true inheritance, etc. I also feel there are many secrets among them all as collectors and people suppressing documents and best to keep mum's the word.

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    5. Responding to 9:21 PM: undoubtedly this is true. But it still leaves unexplained why Hill and Terhune allowed the family representative to be attacked on their forum like that without stepping in and insisting that she be respected. Moderators moderate for God’s sake.

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    6. That is a real back story. It is confusing.

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    7. Wow ! I would wonder about that too.

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    8. Is there a possibility of having an open discussion on WNF or MAtB on the Cue book, the dissertation, and why Ms. Villalobos used Cue as a primary source for her material? I challenge Terhune, Hill, Gribbin, and O'Martin to be forthright and disclose how they feel about this topic to their forum members. "Fess up, gang!

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    9. Which copy are you referring to ?

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    10. Copy of the Villalobos dissertation.

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    11. An open dialogue about the Cue book, the dissertation, and why Villalobos used Cue as a primary source, is too civilized and mature a premise for the thugs who run the forums. A great stain on each of them really. And yet they dub themselves scholars, historians, collectors, distinguished personages, etc. Haha.

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    12. Terhune has already labeled Cue's book with a litany of taglines and they would all traipse along repeating that. While believing that in parroting his idiotic taglines, they might become truth. Not possible. Thugs, the lot of them.

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    13. Those ill-mannered boors 9:17 referred to are still spewing the same insults at Villalobos' dissertation, as well as the Cue book translation by Floris and Zumaya. Fortunately, no one listens to them as they howl in the wind. No one with intellect and good sense, that is.

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  2. Can just envision him pacing the floor wondering what he will do next. Face it Terhune you cannot cover the truth with lies because it just keeps crashing through all the time. There is always evidence and it hides in places that you cannot imagine.

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  3. Valentino, along with Gerrard and Graves, dodged a cataclysmic bullet regarding Minter. Charlotte Shelby, the mother of all grotesque stage mothers, was a monster. She was cruelly possessive of Minter and a dangerous threat to anyone who got in her way. Selfish and rotten to the core, Shelby considered Minter her meal ticket and woe betide any man, especially an unknown Italian extra, who attempted to get between her and her daughter. Journalist Adela Rogers St. Johns and director King Vidor, contemporaries of Minter, investigated the William Desmond Taylor murder case and concluded that it was Charlotte Shelby who committed the crime. This woman was a real piece of work. I have no doubt it was she and not Minter who wrote and copied the letter above to Valentino, Gerrard, and Graves.

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    1. Interesting theory!

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    2. Emmet J. Flynn, who directed Valentino in Virtus Sinners and was an early booster of the young actor’s career, married Margaret Shelby, the older sister of Mary Miles Minter. Very soon after the marriage in 1937, Flynn died under very mysterious circumstances. Although he was an alcoholic and the official cause of death was a brain hemorrhage, there were very strong rumors that Charlotte Shelby had something to do with his death. This woman was a walking plague and would have done anything for money.

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