Sunday, April 10, 2022

Commentary by Renato Floris

Renato writes:

"Evelyn's naivety led her, in the beginning of this sad adventure, to share with excitement what she discovered and verified in chat rooms of the time. She then, subsequently, exposed the false origins and untruths of the much heralded "homosexuality" of Valentino.

Two characters immediately unleashed themselves publicly, who still today spit poison and defamation both at Evelyn and at me.

The characters in question, ça va sans dire, are Tracy Ryan Terhune and David Bret. They accuse us of their own behavior, of which there is very little more shameless than theirs.

We have no interest in and no use for lying, for hating, defaming, ridiculing anyone, opening hate blogs under their book's titles, and just want to be able to deliver to the true fans of Valentino what we have found and documented.

Evelyn is a person of great integrity and kindness and there is little else she can do but defend herself from the poisonous broadsides of those two, who would like her to be forever silenced and perhaps dead.

Tracy says we are not liked and calls us, "persona non grata", it would be more correct to say "personae non gratae" but I am aware of his cultural limitations.

I ask him, disliked by whom? How can people dislike us if they can not even mention our names in Terhune's subjugated Facebook groups, Mad About the Boy and We Never Forget? How can people dislike us if our long series of honest books is banned from a list compiled by Donna Hill, which she claims to be all-inclusive of everything ever published on Valentino?

Bret and Terhune have made me a particular target of their name-calling and personal insults. I want to say that I have always worked honestly, in many fields, and this for me has been my great reward.

I add that both Evelyn and I do not lie because we don't need to. Unlike like the professional liar, David Bret, who literally invents incredible characters.

I was curious about his latest claim that a French chansonnier Claude Rambeau was a gay lover of Valentino. I really searched and searched and now believe Rambeau never existed. Bret publishes, as a great scoop, a photo of this non-existent fellow.

I searched the photo and found it comes from a collection of vintage gay images, with no identification. I also add that the image will appear on a gay culture calendar in publication for 2023 and that it will be the iconic image for the month of August.

It seems all Bret needs as “proof” someone was a gay lover of Valentino, is a cropped head shot of the person and nothing more. Does he now just sit with a pair of scissors and decide who will be the next “lover” of Valentino? Snip. Snip. Is that his research?

Perhaps he could share more about this person Rambeau, some documentation, and more than a clumsily cut head shot from this publication. Here I share the original image, which is so poorly cropped by Bret, from the 'Nakayoshi gentleman photo series from the latter half of the 19th century to the beginning of the 20th century collection.' " 


19 comments:

  1. They have the gall to blame you and Evelyn for this trouble when it is clearly them who are the culprits. Taking responsibility just for writing the truth, and Bret posts anonymous comments to himself and for what? Jealousy that is what because he has no supporters as he claims. The others on the website on which he writes only tolerate him. He says he is amused by reading the comments, he is not so thick skinned as he writes. He has an unhappy home life, he cannot sell any books, Evelyns books do better, and will do better because she and Renato have talent.



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    1. It is difficult and unpleasant to even try to convey how long they have been doing this. I think I must have done something awfully right with Affairs Valentino for them to be still this furious about it after 12 years. Maybe they should get over it and move on. No matter how much mud they sling our way, they can not change who we are or impact the efforts we put into our books. Not in the slightest.

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  2. Renato and Evelyn are two of the most wonderful people I have come in contact with and they will continue to gain more supporters for their work and honest research.

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    1. Thank you so much, your support is really important to us.

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  3. Thank you 8:14. 🌷🌷🌷

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  4. Let's not be putting the cart before the horse. You were the one who wrote that awful FOREWARNING in your first edition of Affairs Valentino. That was a scurrilous attack on others that was unprovoked. Just in the interest of trying to sell your book with controversy attached to it. That backfired and was removed from the shelves pronto as was recognized as the work of a crackpot who only wanted attention through defamation.
    Then, in that Turin talk that we endlessly hear about, you attacked David Bret's work by name. That is never done...one author going after another...in the world of legitimate publication.
    You won't address these issues here, I am sure.

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    1. Well you (above at 10:19) win the award for "hate comment" of the week in the "sheer stupidity" category. Here is why. Excuse me for being so blunt but to correct your thoroughly inaccurate comment... 1 - I wrote the Forewarning as a full report of what Bret and Terhune had been doing to me the entire year of 2010. It was without a doubt the worst of their (your?) bullying and that intro was completely provoked by them every single day of 2010. The intro to the first edition was gospel truth and I was proven so correct after I published it... because they did everything and more I predicted they would and are still doing. I did not include that intro to "generate controversy" but to let people know why my Google search was flooded with heinous lies about me, i.e. that I had a criminal history, I was a drug addict, insane, and I had an incestuous relationship with my parent. Horrifying defamation I had to explain. After all these years that is all they have to hold up and howl about, but it is in fact 100% true. And 2 - I spoke about Bret's lousy Valentino book in my speech in Turin in 2009, for 5 minutes out of a 30 minute speech and used it to show how lies become fiction and how he plagiarized another book. He is still thrashing about furious trying to figure out how to deal with those 5 minutes of criticism. As far as the "one author does not go after another" I respond with wow where and when did that become a thing? And if Bret is so upset STILL after 12 years... and still attacking me...every single day... then is it not wildly hypocritical of him to even suggest such a thing. This comment is idiotically inaccurate and another hateful attempt to smear my name. I think everyone by now knows who is (or are) the "crackpots". The Forewarning was an awesome piece of truthiness. My 5 minutes on Bret in my Turin speech...golden.

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    2. Fellow Author? Which Fellow Author? Certainly not David Bret. He does not have the essential qualities to be defined as an author imo. He lacks the fundamental characteristic of intellectual honesty. For example, Bret presents crowds of Valentino's alleged homosexual lovers, invents a phantom Torch Club which he defines as a gay sauna frequented by Hollywood homosexuals.

      Bret portrays Valentino among these frequenters, despite the fact that Valentino at the age of fifteen contracted syphilis from having sex with female prostitutes. I think a young man with such a history does not have a great future as a homosexual.

      I think Bret can scarcely qualify as a legitimate author and imo is one of the least credible characters in the Valentino world. The more they go on with their lies and antics and act the poor victims of the FOREWARNING, the more they only damage themselves.

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  5. Nice try DB , you are always the victim. How long do you think that you can fool people? You were caught lying in your book. Evelyn did not start this war , you did because of your insecurity. You are easy to figure of the way you write. You do not fool anybody.


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    1. This has never been a war. It is a wholly other dynamic... and is today still a couple of reprehensible people doing their best to destroy us because they are unable to cope with a book they did not like. We have never wanted anything but for them to stop this and long ago. And I am not so convinced this can be so quickly attributed to David Bret. The obsession over the Forewarning is a real Tracy Terhune issue. He still finds it hard to believe I had the nerve to call him out on his bully behavior way back then. And I do so again today.

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  6. The comment at 10:19 PM is none other than that tiresome bruiser Big Mama Martin. She has made this exact remark about “fellow authors” before. Although I think it is instructive to periodically post examples of the dreadful verbal attacks Evelyn and Renato are subjected to, I wish it were possible to eliminate Martin’s output. Anything with her disturbed psyche attached to is painful to behold.

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    1. It is "painful to behold". Claiming to be a part of some "greater Valentino Studies Community" or some "legitimate, greater community." Hardly. A few sad sacks imo.

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    2. I receive nearly a nonstop thread of these dreadful comments. Once in a while I do post one. I now have 360 "disturbed" comments, "awaiting moderation" which I feel are not fit for posting here. They represent the same tired themes over and over and are only an attempt to hijack this blog and torment us.

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    3. Thought it was Bret.

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    4. They are starting to all sound alike.

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  7. Comment 12:22 has it exactly right. Like her fellow loser, DB, Black Matriarch always reveals herself by the same word patterns and trite expressions (VSC). She especially gives herself away with her unabated obsessive jealousy of Ms. Zumaya's relationship with Michael Morris and Ms Zumaya's success as a writer. O'Martin would never be invited to speak at an Elk's convention, much less at a Valentino symposium. So, beat it, O'Martin, and scurry back to MAtB, where another post of the Sheik's Physique awaits your breathless commentary.

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  8. So a war is not the right word for what is going on. I am tired of their tired arguments time and again. And painful is right. What studies are they carrying out anyway, they are trying to sound professional but IMO know nothing.

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  9. No matter how much they torment you and try to take credit for your work and research, you and Renato will always have supporters.

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