Thursday, April 14, 2022

Claire Follow-up

A comment @ 1:53 on the previous post mused whether a scene where Valentino and Claire Del Mar might have danced together could have been cut from the film. 

I can't dismiss that possibility because scenes were cut from The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. From The Coshocton Tribune, October22, 1926:

From The Gazette, (Montreal, Quebec, Canada) October 5, 1951:

And in regards to the comment in previous post @ 2:48, I cite from The True Rudolph Valentino, p. 57-58:

"About that same time, Rudolph fell in love with several women. Some corresponded with him and with some he engaged in intimate affairs. Among these are women who today are happily married to notable characters on the screen and in society. Others paid little attention to him.
    But perhaps none had as much disdain for Rudolph as Gloria Swanson, whom he was madly in love with at the time. Once he borrowed money and spent it on flowers and chocolates to take to Gloria. The story goes that she threw the flowers and chocolate in his face and hit his nose while slamming the door."

8 comments:

  1. I believe the Villalobos dissertation also relays this incident of Valentino wooing Swanson with gifts, only to have the door slammed in his face. During his younger years in Italy, we know that Valentino used his mother’s credit accounts to run up charges for expensive gifts for girlfriends (according to Alberto), so his borrowing to pay for the Swanson sweets and flowers is par for the course with him. This incident occurred well before he found success. Swanson seems to have had a high enough opinion of herself that she chose to see it as a affront that a “nobody,” madly handsome and alluring though he was, believed he was worthy of her attention. I am sure Rudy swiftly moved on to the next candidate for his affections, without missing a beat.

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    1. Yes on p. 229 in the dissertation Villalobos cites Cue's account of Swanson rejecting Valentino.

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  2. Great research, Evelyn! Also, recall in FHotA, there is one scene where Julio is painting 3 women. In one scene, allegedly the European version, the women are clearly nude under very gauzy material. However, in the American version, the women are completely covered. Two different scenes were filmed. I'm sure there was a lot of film either left on the cutting room floor or never shown in the US. And, as your research proves, censorship was a consideration for editing several controversial scenes.

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  3. What strikes me îs that it seems Rudy tried to woo Gloria Swanson and hâd affairs with othe women while being with Natacha or while dating her (around 1922). I am not sure about The dtaes, but it would seem that way.

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  4. Sorry, The comment above was meant for The previous post.

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  5. I admire Evelyn and Renato's research on getting down to the truth. They do an excellent job.

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    1. Thank you! We have never had a reason to be anything but truthful. And it will stay that way.

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  6. As has been noted on this blog before, Natacha’s play indicates that she endured Valentino’s conduct of multiple affairs with women during their marriage, which chipped away at her confidence. Cue of course, corroborates this. This aspect of Valentino is censored on the forums because it doesn’t jibe with the only two depictions permitted; wholesome Boy Scout mooning over women who don’t want him or closeted tragic figure unmoved by women but nonetheless destroyed by them.

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