Tuesday, March 29, 2022

Live With It

The latest delusion of those bullies who have been stalking, trolling and inspiring hatred of us for years on end... is that they believe themselves the, “Greater Valentino community.” Greater what? Greater abusers? In response to their absurd claim that they just want peace and quiet on their groups so that is why our names and our work can not be mentioned... I say who would ever, ever believe such absurdity?

We have asked only to have our work receive respect and acknowledgement and we have asked, passionately that people not engage in the cyber bullying campaign to silence us, led by Tracy Terhune. 

I have thousands of pieces of evidence of that campaign and share just a tiny sampling of what they actually do contribute as collaborators. No one wants peace and quiet more than Renato and I. That is fact. But honestly, we fight on. We will not be silenced or intimidated and stand proud of our work in every way.

A few examples of the contributions from the "Valentino Greater Community"...to prove my points... My point that they contribute all the possible hate and sickness in the Valentino world today. So if you multiply these few examples below by thousands and realize the time frame for us has been since about 2009.... that is the reality. 

***A few from Terhune's contributions: ( and these are excerpted from his blog and preserved on the server)




***(Below) From Bret/Albertista/Joey/Nicole/ et al. The following are excerpted from personal e-mails he sent to me:



***(Below) From Eleanor Gribbin with Simon Constable/Etienne:


***(Below) From Cindy Martin/Mum/O'Bannon. With Donna Hill sitting right there, saying nothing to correct her about this. It is 100% false and offensive and about as wicked as they come. 


***"Live with it"?? I do not think so. 

31 comments:

  1. These words speak for themselves. People who read the Floris books are beginning to know the truth and who are the villains and who are the heroes. Bret is already ruined. His books do not sell, just a desperate attempt to keep from the lies being exposed.

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  2. Someone will always be fighting for truth.

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  3. These sites do not discuss Valentino's life , they just expect them to bow down and kiss Lord Terhune's feet. How ironic to read that they should respect on their sites where kindness and bullying is not allowed on their site,yet they tear into anyone who dares say the opposite of what they say. These are not experts nor scholars. And this is not Evelyn writing these anonymous comments I am a supporter of the Floris and their books , I have some of them, and were worth the money I spent on.So be happy you bullies in your own little world, hardly doubt if your fan sites have many people on it anyway. Using fake name alias to convince others that you are successful.

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  4. Martin/O'Bannon/DarkMum has never accomplished one thing and is literally eaten up with jealousy. She's a nasty harridan and not worth anyone's time. I cannot wait for the moment she, disguised as the affected crony, O'Bannon, slips that verbal shiv right into the heart of Madame Gribbin's Valentino fantasy.

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  5. The caliber of leadership in the "Studies Community" is rather low.
    Remember just a couple of weeks ago that it took Terhune, Hill and Piscine (Constable) putting their noggins together to come to the conclusion that Valentino had lifted his pen in signing an autographed photo.
    Not giants of intellect to be sure.

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    1. Good for them that they figured it out. Rudy lifted the pen.

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  6. I hope everyone gets a good look at the smutty comments above left by Bret/Batista/Edelman/Nicole/Mosko/Jenkins (did I leave out an alias?). This is the person who TRT allows to bloviate freely on his blog, on his forum, and who dances around MAtB like a Rockette on steroids. Keep it classy, Ms. Gribbin.

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    1. And that is some of the milder content Bret posted. And yes Terhune provides the platform for Bret to continue and has linked to his killer blogs about us over the years and consistently.

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  7. Those are some sick ass individuals and are as mentally disturbed as they come. Piss off haters! Evelyn has a following who loves her so go wallow in that!

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  8. I'm convinced that Terhune has some mental development challenges which are on full display on his blog and his responses on WNF. I think this may be part of the reason why "relics" seem to be the only things he can relate to. Certainly he cannot see Rudy as a full and complex human being worthy of research and study. People like Terhune and Constable only see a sepia tone "body" found on old photographs that now serves their purposes to be lusted after by them. If Terhune can't have the man in the flesh (now gone nearly 100 years) he'll settle for surrounding himself with as much as the next best thing as possible in his mind...Valentino's "relics". It's sad that this is the person the VSC looks to as their leader.

    The lustful "Golden Girls" also buy into this presentation by Terhune since it provides some kind of relief for them in their emptiness. Just this evening, one of the new "rising stars" of the VSC Ms. Mounts posted a photo of Valentino kissing Vilma Banky from SON OF THE SHEIK with the caption: "I wish..*sigh*". Then a discussion followed on how deeply he was kissing her and what the image does to each of them in physical arousal and in their own fantasies.

    That's a bit of the VSC. Who, with half a brain, needs it?

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  9. If it has not already been done, I urge the reporting of the death threat email above. That level of psychological disorder has nothing to do with Rudolph Valentino and books. The lunatic made it easy by providing his email address. And since Terhune, Hill, Gribbin and the “Valentino family” are surely monitoring this blog, to them I say, feast your eyes upon the depravity of the swine you have aligned yourselves with. Your reputations are welded to his words because you give him a platform and condone his gross excretions with your silence.

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    1. Oh it was reported along with hundreds more which he sent through various ways and still does. The police in three countries were contacted. In the U.S., the police told me not to read it., etc. In his home town the police paid him a visit or two and had “tea” according to Bret. The police gave a difference version of those visits. They served him with a non-harassment order which he broke consistently and nothing happened. I pursued that to the oversight organization who sent it back to his same local police for review. Bret bragged he had a “protector” in the police. He also told them they are not death threats but, “witty death wishes”. Which he still does every day.
      It is frightening that Terhune supports and exploits this openly and provides Bret with a ready platform used to bully us even more.
      I will say that Italians took it more seriously. I sued and won. Some of the screenshots are included in the mountain of evidence on file with the case there but only up to 2016. www.zumayawinslawsuit.com

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    2. Gribbin, Hill, O’Bannon and the third do nothing administrator on Terhune’s forum (Rebecca Eash) also have dirty hands. They allow Batista/Morris/Edelman to swan around on their forums “like a Rockette on steroids” as the poster above put it so brilliantly.

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    3. And on a few notable occasions things Michael Morris told them about me, such as my move to Turin... appeared instantly on Bret's blogs. And Tracy Terhune submitted a document to the court where he was sharing information with Bret for use on his blogs, telling him not to reveal his name. As that is public record, I have posted that here previously. They are all complicit imo. What is that quote that evil only triumphs if good people say nothing.

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  10. The word that keeps coming to mind when I read these things Evelyn has posted is "appalling". It certainly verifies everything I have long believed about the so-called VSC.
    Aside from all else, it's pathetic how those at "the top" of the VSC allow and even encourage their followers to make cringeworthy public posts like the one cited above at 6:33 a.m.. Terhune, Constable and Hill probably get their kicks out of watching lonely hearts like Gribbin, O'Bannon, Mounts, Mason, Santiago, et al make fools of themselves with their shared lustful fantasies that build one upon the other about long dead Rudy. You would think someone with some sense might intervene on those threads where the "Golden Girls" start getting hot and bothered in arousal and tell them it's a pathetic display. But no, they are encouraged in this embarrassing behavior by "the top" enablers who seem to enjoy watching these ladies denigrate themselves.

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    1. It would be a beginning if Terhune closed that hit blog, if Bret paid the damages due us as ordered by a court, and if Cindy Martin made a public apology and a retraction for her lying about Beyond Valentino not being Michael Morris' book and her saying the lawsuit filed v. Bret never took place. Although she has apologized privately these things have to happen publicly, etc. etc. etc. I do not hold hopes any of that will ever happen. And perhaps we could see a new face at the crypt ceremony and not an emcee who has spent all these years bullying us mercilessly, enabling Bret's cruelty and leading the call to censor and defame us on his two Facebook groups. It is hard to take.

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  11. It has to be his ownership of the relics that makes Terhune the "go to" for Valentino information. Perhaps the Suck-ups hope, with their oily flattery, TRT will allow them one day to touch one of the sacred artifacts. Sure, he knows the provenance of his possessions (got to think about resell!), but there is a long list of facts that he has gotten completely wrong in the past, from misidentifying images and events to arguing with new posters about THEIR possessions and Valentino research. Do your own legwork, folks. Don't assume a Facebook forum admin is the final word.

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    1. Tracy Terhune has emphatically stated that the idea that Valentino was met by wealthy family friends, relatives is "pure fiction". This is fact now and his saying that denies the testimony and history of three very reputable families. It is not just that he gets a lot wrong, it is that he is frozen in time as far as advancements in Valentino's history are concerned. And he forbids his followers to even mention let alone discuss us and any of our new discoveries. This because he would have to learn and grow. Contrary to his party lines...Ullman was the hero in Valentino's story, Rambova the best this that ever happened to Valentino and yes Mennillo and Filomarino were overlords when Valentino arrived. All of this is denied by Terhune and I have no idea why people do not fact check his statements. His knowledge imo ended about 1965 with Irving Schulman. And even then it is pretty sketchy.

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    2. Talk about a small world that Terhune is in. His fantasies about Valentino are unhealthy. I have learned a lot about Rudy, instead of believing the same , old tired version of him it us more interesting than I thought.

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    3. What 6:56 p.m. says about Terhune arguing with other posters about their possessions is true. If he doesn't own a Valentino artifact, then it's suspect.

      A small example of this is a Christmas card from 1925 that Valentino had sent out (it was his last Christmas of course). Terhune made a big boast that he had one of these. Another poster shared an image of a different design that they owned that had steel engraving and obviously from the period. The poster also supplied a contemporary clipping from a 1926 magazine (the following Christmas) that clearly showed a different design than Terhune's. John Gilbert was the recipient of one of these cards and the article cited that as such.
      Terhune's response: His (different design) was the OFFICIAL Valentino Christmas card from '25.

      Give us a break from your know it all attitude, Lord Terhune.

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    4. Well I think it fair to say that Terhune has made it extremely clear that he believes he is in charge, i.e. "King of Valentino" and anyone disagreeing with him will be banished forever. And cruelly so. I speak from way too much experience with that. That is not healthy for anyone involved. And certainly not a trait one admires in a leader of anything. Ruthless intolerance on any issue? Good luck with that.

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  12. Good Luck indeed! If people want to join his group that is their business, but I would not to with a group like that.

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    1. **** I just accidently deleted a comment which I was able to copy and will paste in here: Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Live With It":

      "I also remember seeing that Valentino Christmas card post. It's kind of symbolic, of Terhune's attitude. With the card, he had definite evidence laid to him that the one he called "official" (since he owned it) wasn't what he thought. The other collector had the genuine article and had some vintage archival proof to back it up.
      Not so, for the undisputed custodian of Valentino relics. He couldn't possibly be wrong.... even when it was laid before him that he was. Kind like the Floris' research and his rejection of that."

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  13. It bears mentioning here that Terhune, on top of everything else, is a singularly unpleasant person, particularly to those few forum posters who exhibit intelligence and original thinking. He shares this unattractive personality with Constable. Case in point, a talented photographer posted a series of black and white photos of New York buildings and other markers that figured prominently in Valentino’s last days on Terhune’s forum. The photos were arresting and the accompanying text thoughtful and provocative. Instead of profusely thanking this artist for gracing his piddling forum with works of beauty and originality, Terhune attacked her. He pitifully attempted to devalue her work by claiming that it presented a dark view of Valentino that he could not accept. Actually, I am putting more cogent words in his mouth than he is capable of uttering - he said something like “I don’t get it.” He brought in his brute flunkies to make similar witless statements. The photographer persisted in completing her photo cycle, and good for her! But she was never heard from again. This episode illustrates the essence of Terhune. He despises talent and intelligence, particularly in women. And despite his bluster, he is quite tentative in his role as crypt barker in chief.

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    1. After knowing precisely what he has done to us and others, I am continually blown away that he is even allowed within a mile of Valentino's crypt. Renato calls him, "Mr. Throw the Stone and Hide the Hand." I think Terhune has been successful in hiding his worst acts. For example he does not share or advertise his bully hit blog he runs with David Bret to attack us and our work. I think it would be hard for some of his followers to comprehend how far he goes. It is not a good thing at all.

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  14. Yes, his "brute flunkies"... well said. A whole other layer of sinister for me.

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  15. To this day, I've never understood the hate and downright nastiness of someone like Terhune. If he don't want to accept or agree with the Floris' conclusions after all of their research, so be it. No one can force another to agree, even when the solid documentation is laid out before them. Someone like that is sticking their head in the sand. But that's just the way some people are.
    However, it's one thing not accept or agree. It's another to go on the attack and very explicitly try to harm the reputation and potentially very well being of the other that you disagree with. I just can't understand that.
    Hill, Gribbin, O'Bannon and others you can try to understand because they are blindly following the leader (although they could speak up, but won't). But why is the leader as deranged as he is and allowed to do what he does?
    Bret is in a whole other class unto himself...morally ugly and as totally despicable.

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    1. I would disagree with one point to 10:24 comment above. Bret is not in a whole other class... because Terhune, according to Cindy Martin, approves of everything Bret writes on his blog. He and Bret are one, have been for at least 10 long years and are the same to us. And it is a frightening thing to have them both inciting irrational hatred towards us which puts us in real danger. People get emotional and act out. Frivolously calling people homophobic today is a very dangerous thing to do for example. They are imo all "morally ugly" to contribute to the collective decade of abuse and horror we have had to endure. And staying silent is complicity. We never expect anyone to like what we put out. We source and cite everything we possibly can to make our case on something. But as you mentioned to attack people who put out a book you did not like and for years... calling them drug addicts, claiming they have warrants out on them and criminal pasts, etc. All of that imo is criminal harassment. I do not separate any of the people you mentioned. And I see them as all in it with Bret. All very ugly to not rise up and show a tiny bit of moral fiber. Michael Morris used to call them, "the molls on the sidelines". Perfect.

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    2. ...and make no mistake. Gribbin, beholden to Terhune in being "allowed" by him to run that Facebook page, shares characteristics with him. She delights in people denigrating the Floris and really anyone who does not hold the Terhune line. Her emojis of Peanuts characters eating popcorn and watching a show unfold is so childish. Childish and odd for a brute & coarse woman like herself

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  16. Is the Christmas card in question the same one TRT put his own name on to wish all his friends, neighbors, and forum followers a Merry Christmas? The casual filching of what he purported to be Valentino's card for his own use clinched it for me. Tacky. And nuts.

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  17. He did it on a couple of cards that were allegedly sent out by Rudy (the only one that could be verified as real was the one Terhune doesn't have).
    On one of these cards, Terhune photoshopped his own name placing it above Valentino's. It looked like Terhune and Rudy were a "couple" wishing everyone a Merry Christmas.
    In your warped fantasies, Terhune!

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