Sunday, February 13, 2022

Oh, the O'Thieving by Shady O'Bannon

For the record I think it important for me to state the following here, in my defense and for posterity:

Throughout 2003 while I interviewed Valentino memorabilia collector Bill Self, he taunted me with several things he claimed he had in his collection. One of them was the original contract Valentino signed with United Artists. This contract assumed a place of importance in the separation and divorce between Rudy and Natacha. Self told me he had it somewhere and as I would leave an interview, he would promise to have it for me to read the next time I came to visit him. He never did.

So imagine my thrill, when I first went through the Appeals Court records of George Ullman's case, after searching for them for one year, to find that contract was included. I read it a few times to realize one glaring point; Natacha was not mentioned at all. This was a complete contradiction to the then belief that she was banned in the contract. She was not.

She was not included in the contract which was the problem and the banishing of Natacha was done by UA head Joe Schenck in a private memo. This was revealed in the 1975 George Ullman Memoir, which I found and we published. I was also given non-transferrable and exclusive rights to that memoir. (We also shared the entire contract in the Affairs Valentino Companion Guide and online.) 

I guess to most people this all did not seem like a huge discovery but I think it was. It changed the history on that one point. Imagine my fury one day to learn that Ms. Cindy O'Martin was carrying forth in her Facebook forum telling some star-struck follower how she researched for years before finding the copy of the United Artists' contract and that she discovered Natacha's name was not mentioned. And then going on with her revelation that Natacha was banned in the memo, etc.

If she neglected to mention that I found that out and years before and published it all in Affairs Valentino, it might have been considered an oversight. But she bragged openly, taking credit for my treks to the libraries, my trips to see Self, my finding and interviewing the Ullmans, and much more.

Cindy O'M. did not discover any of this, and I repeat she did not discover that Natacha's name was not in that UA contract and she did not find that copy of that contract. Etc. And her dispatching her offspring to chastise me and accuse me of "bullying" Mummy by even mentioning such a thing is outrageous BS. She has never issued an apology or a clarification of the facts of this matter. Plagiary is a serious subject and considered theft. 

I wonder how many times she and the other VSC (Valentino Studies Community) / "team" members have stolen my work while spreading lies about us as fast as they possibly can and taking joy in trying to ruin Renato and I completely. I just wanted to make it clear that they do this. (see previous post, "From Renato") The list is long and they have no shame in using the very material they trash everyday to try and look smart. i.e., Terhune telling someone one day how, breaking news, Rudy actually sent Natacha away. He knew I wrote about that for the first time in 2011 in Affairs Valentino, the book he delights in calling “pure fiction”. Hardly. 

And Happy Valentine's Day everyone... many a chin chin to this fine and eternal subject. 


26 comments:

  1. O'Martin is in a pickle. She has donned the mantle of Second Hand Rose to Eleanor Gribbin on MAtB, so she must be very careful not to repeat any of her former Dark Mum-isms in case some sharp eyed member recognizes her. Well, too late, O'Martin. You are too obvious. Terhune and Gribbin may think you have been successful in your masquerade, but most of us are not fools.

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  2. This dreadful, boorish woman’s claim to have tirelessly researched and uncovered the trust about the UA contract is preposterous. Zumaya is the sole source of this material, end of story. Anyone who quotes it does so on her back. Martin/O’Bannon, or whatever the hell else she calls herself is an empty, barking attention monger and sh@t stirrer. She is devoid of standing or authority. And thank you Evelyn for posting this beautiful photo of Valentino, one in which the disconnect between his right eye and his damaged left eye can be seen clearly.

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    1. I had not noticed but it is very apparent in this image. Thanks for pointing that out.

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    2. It is very apparent that the eyes do not match at all.

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  3. Anyone else notice the transparent membership grab being staged by O’Martin and Gribbin on MAtB? They have obviously pirated the membership lists of a number of Italian based forums and are roping in unsuspecting folks in droves. Very clear that they are determined to eclipse the membership numbers of the flagging We Never Forget.

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    1. I also noticed the influx of Italian members on MAtB. The Welcome Wagon there is working overtime! Since most of these "newbies" cannot speak English, it is safe to assume the Golden Girls are furiously adding names of Italian citizens, particularly from the cities of Castellaneta and Taranto, who would never even consider putting "Mad About the Boy in a Facebook search engine.

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    2. It would be ironic if the new Italian members began to quote certain facts from "Affairs Valentino."

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    3. They might because Affairs Valentino is available in Italian. Renato and Chicca Morone translated it and did a beautiful job.

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    4. Those who own the Floris books know what kind of game that they are pulling off. They see who the "phonies " are. Try and lie as you may people always figure things out and the fact that they pass off the discoveries as their own proves that the depend on the ignorance of their members as one person pointed it out.

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    5. At Madness About The Boy, they are indeed adding Italians to their ranks. Also, the French like "Etienne" who had his hands slapped by Gribbin. The official "party line" at MATB is that the Floris' and their works are not even to be mentioned. I'm thinking that's all a load of hooey as they are obviously lifting from them.

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    6. MAtB is a great forum if your idea of "Valentino Studies" is for an administrator to post each evening the most alluring photos of Rudy they can find online and then wish him a "goodnight". After that, all of the regulars who have come to Valentino in their later years follow up the "goodnight" photo with 'heart' emojis and references to him as "My Love" and "Sweet Prince".

      "Valentino Studies", indeed! Give me a break!

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    7. The above post brilliantly lays bare the tragic dynamic at the heart of the Valentino forums. Individuals well past their youth (chiefly women but a clutch of besotted males as well) gather in a faux community around the fantasy that they can will Valentino to be their devoted lover, who is by their side each night as they retire for bed. The sadness of this pathology is infinite, and worthy of sensitive exploration. However, what it is not, is related in any way whatsoever to the serious exploration of Valentino and his life and times.

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    8. My sense of MAtB is that it is a community of lonely hearts who have latched onto images of a virile 'exotic' from 100 years ago who makes no demands on them since he is long, long deceased. It is all very safe...especially as they can crush on him together like schoolgirls and enable one another in the fantasy. It must make them feel younger somehow. It's all very sad.
      p.s. Didn't one of them even publicly confess her lifelong fantasy of being impregnated by Valentino?

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    9. Yes, the head of MAtB shared her dream for all to see a few years back about being "very pregnant" with her 3rd child by Rudy. In her fantasy, John Gilbert (their neighbor) even pops up in the dream.
      O'Bannon responded with a gush "For your sake and his I wish it had been reality. You might have been the one to give him the things in life that no one else had. Happy Rudy dreams..."

      There's "Valentino Studies" at it's best!

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    10. Very doubtful that Valentino would have been pleased with this outcome fantasized for him. What a burden for him while he lived to have had to endure muck like this coming at him wherever he went. It has nothing to do with him. This is why Mad About the Boy is not a forum dedicated to the investigation of Valentino but is instead an outlet for the rather monstrous ego of its founder and the lurid fantasies she should keep to herself.

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    11. She must be seriously disturbed to share a dream like that.

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  4. As Renato pointed out " what kind of Valentino studies " are they carrying out? These people are not scholars and have not ever did any research as much as Evelyn has done. Renato and Evelyn, now these are people who have done the hard work. That is why I support them and their work. These people are so easy to sniff out.

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    1. I think members are not joining because of CM. Definitely I would not join if she was in charge.

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    2. What I cannot figure out is why SC made such a noise about leaving FB for good, particularly after his breakup with Gribbin when she welcomed O'Martin and her Colorist back to the fold. And now, SC has returned as HFSL. How humiliating it must be to have his comments monitored by the person who replaced him, especially since that person happens to be O'Martin. It's a soap opera there, folks. I don't think the Italian class of newbies are going to be very impressed.

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    3. Did you honestly believe that SC would honor his bloated claims about leaving FB permanently?? He has been reporting on his imminent departure for years and years, and with each false bulletin he slinks back on his knees, further diminished. Today he is on full display on MAtB, humiliating himself with the offering of a portrait of HL Mencken to his new leader O’Martin. Remarkably, one of the forum lemmings actually made some intelligent remarks about Mencken, and this deeply displeased SC. He cannot abide a free thinker.

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  5. I don't recall CL Martin ever unearthing any unique research. Claiming someone else's work as your own is simply plagiarism and theft.

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    1. Bruiser O’Martin has researched and written nothing. She has no record of work whatsoever (other than as Bret’s porn editor). What she does have is a deranged conviction that people are interested in what she thinks.

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    2. And does not make them "mainstream". Makes them sad.

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  6. CM reads this blog I am sure. Theft and plagiarism are serious indeed. She would do well to stop while she is ahead.

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