Saturday, June 25, 2022

Those Letters to Florey

For many years, David Bret claimed he was in possession of a secret diary written by Rudolph Valentino in which the star's secret homosexual life was divulged. I thought the location of this secret diary should be made public and I asked him about that. And so it began... as Bret pointed in one direction after another to claim a source for what so far has turned out to be no source at all other than his imagination.

At first he called it the “unpublished diary of Rudolph Valentino”, which he claimed was published by an Italian imprint, Edizioni Lindau. I discovered this was the Italian translation of My Private Diary, a book published in 2004, five years after Bret's book on Valentino. 

Then he pointed the way to Jeanne DeRecqueville and built the fantasy that she revealed Valentino and Andre Daven were lovers. We translated that book to see exactly what DeRecqueville wrote and in fact she revealed the opposite. She conducted some of the first, authoritative research proving Valentino was heterosexual. So Bret moved on.

Then he claimed it was revealed in Robert Florey's installments published in the French fan magazine, Cinemonde in 1956. His proof, he said, that Valentino was gay was right there in the letters Valentino wrote to Florey. 

So Renato then took considerable time to find a complete copy of all the installments and translated them into English. Those letters? In The Rudolph Valentino Case Files, pp. 113-114 you can read some of those letters which Florey includes. Here are a few extracts from Installment #7, which was published in Cinemonde on November 22, 1956:

(Letter dated December 29, 1922, extracts)

“I have happily just received your nice letter which is the first one I received since your sudden departure for the beautiful Hollywood as you call it. I wonder if it's true that you wrote to me or if it's just to make me believe you did...Thank you very much, old boy for the good publicity you give me and I will order Abbe to print for me a set of new photos which I will send to you as soon as they are ready. At the same time I'm going to send you two speeches I gave on a radio show, which almost a million radio fans heard; the first against the bad method of producing films adopted by trusts like Famous Players etc. and another where I explain the mission of the cinema in the future of the world."

"I would like you to translate those two speeches and send them to your overseas magazines. I believe this is good publicity. Tell those two brave boys, Limur and Caracciolo, to write me a note, and tell Jean not to forget to exercise my horses with Caracciolo if they want to. Send me their addresses. I have to stop now since I have to leave for Philadelphia for a radio interview.

Greetings to all my true friends and many wishes from me and my wife too. Yours always your friend, Rudolph. "

(Letter of May 20, extracts)

"I also want to tell you that while in New York the other day, I posed for new photos of which I chose twenty-eight different poses, and I ordered two hundred glossy reproductions of these and different ones, so you will have enough photos of me to begin with until I get to London and Paris to check in. I also decided that the tenth of July may be a little late for your departure and I changed your passage for the first of July... "

**I am not sure what Bret is claiming now as his source. Those “love letters” in French written from Rudy to Florey were just business directives and travel arrangements; all sent in the course of conducting business.

I still get comments from the team and I am sure Bret, pointedly scolding me for forgetting that Florey and Valentino were lovers. On that I would direct them to the “Nacissistic Gaslighters” memo in my previous post and the item titled, “Outright Denial of Facts”.

This has nothing to do with the subject of anyone's sexuality. It is all about intellectual honesty.


20 comments:

  1. So why doesn't Brat provide the evidence that backs up his claims? Going from one source to the other. Just trusting a magazine article which proves a person's sexuality should be at least checked out and not to be believed entirely.Thanks to Recqueville she debunked the myths about Rudy and Daven being lovers. Now even she is called homophobic because of that. I would call Bret a sore loser! And a liar.

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  2. Still waiting for that secret diary.

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  3. Jumping from one source to another now you would think that they had something to hide.

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  4. Florey never ever said that he and Rudy were lovers. He did have a grudge against Valentino but he never went so far as to say that Rudy was gay!

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    1. If i read correctly both he and Valentino had a crush for the same actress.

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    2. Perhaps you are thinking of Doug Gerrard.

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  5. People who have dealt with Bret and Cindy Martin claimed that the duo were horrible to them on Facebook. Apparently their reputation follows them around. No one wants either one of them in their groups.

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    1. I am pretty sure they are both very present on Mad About the Boy and We Never Forget under their aliases. And the administrators know those aliases well. Terhune welcomes both Martin and Bret to defame us and freely so on the blog he runs. They might seem like pariahs but the reality is, they are anything but.

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    2. They are so easy to figure out, but I believe more people are believing Evelyn and Renato through the books they have written.

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  6. Bret and a few of his cohorts always used those letters and books written in another language to suggest Valentino was gay, because they cynically thought that those documents couldn't be read by the ordinary Valentino fan and that they would never be translated. Now that the Florises have given us the English interpretations of these items, Bret has his back up against a wall. He can present no proof, however bogus, now, so he just resorts to tired, hackneyed insults, with Terhune providing the platform.

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  7. The translations have clearly taken the wind out of their sails.

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  8. Stand Up And CheerJune 26, 2022 at 1:27 AM

    Bret is a completer liar. I do not use that term lightly as it is very strong. However, he is what he is.
    Terhune is an enabler who has his own agenda to keep his salacious Valentino fantasy life alive.
    Together they are a complete disaster when it comes to the integrity of Valentino scholarship. I feel sad there are to this day people interested in Valentino who are duped by them and their sickness.
    It's a reminder to always be thankful for the work of the Floris.

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    1. Can you imagine spending more than a decade of your life with these two united in ruining you? Recruiting people, lying to them, smearing your name everywhere? And then having the gall to try and blame you for it all and pretend to be the victim. Someone recently assessed some of the files upon files of screenshots we have gathered and said, "This is a tremendous defamation." Yes. It is.

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    2. Terhune, Bret & the rest of their twisted cronies ........ They are monsters.

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    3. 3:47: I would say their behavior is monstrous. They have caused so much suffering for so many people. And that is the truth.

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    4. Monstrous indeed! But Evelyn and Renato are not alone in this, remember some people are on your side.

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    5. I continue to support the efforts of Renato and Evelyn. The books of the Floris are treasures in my movie library. You couldn't pay me to read any of Bret's porn trash fiction. What he writes about Rudy is gross and horrible...like Bret himself is.

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    6. As somebody quoted Bret has many enemies I would not like to be in his shoes.At all!

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  9. Bret has probably burned more bridges than any other so-called entertainment biographer (or pornographer, in his case). Not only has he trashed Valentino, but there are so many other Hollywood figures that he has done his number on.
    Bret's Wiki profiles states: "He chiefly writes on the private life of film stars and singers". What BS. More like the private lives of stars and singers according to his own sick mind!

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    1. 10:20: I think that Wiki page should read, "He chiefly writes on the private life of film stars and singers and people he pretends to have known, who are all dead as doornails, and they or their families can not protest his savaging." Makes more sense. Notice how even Marlene Dietrich was gone before her "BFF" wrote the book. I think every single family of his targets protested and made public their outrage, except the Valentino family.

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