Wednesday, June 8, 2022

Renato Floris Defends Us and Our Work Against Tracy Terhune's Continued Defamatory Attacks

Renato writes:

"The fundamental difference between what Tracy says and what we offer for the attention of sincere fans of Valentino, is that our research is based solely on documents, first hand testimony and presented without being clouded by “I wish Valentino were a superior, perfect being. A kind of divinity,” or nonsense of that kind.

We are not interested in the stereotypical image invented by press offices or movie studios or the fictional image as proposed by Terhune and Bret.

Rodolfo Guglielmi was a human being and like all others had his weaknesses and his strengths. Tracy Terhune wants to reiterate a stereotypical image of Valentino, creating Valentino as he would like him to be but, as we know through documents, he was not.

Terhune accuses Evelyn of inventing the fact Valentino suffered from syphilis. It has been proven he did since adolescence and it is not a theory as Tracy Terhune claims. Valentino himself speaks of the disease contracted from the female prostitutes of Taranto. To this declaration the significant admission is also made by Rodolfo's great-granddaughter, Jeanine Villalobos, in her doctoral dissertation.

She also declares that Valentino was blind in the left eye as a consequence of syphilis. Ms. Villalobos did not present this as a theory. It is a shot of sincerity and a breath of fresh air; kudos Jeanine.

And regarding the question of Rodolfo's being sent into exile; this is certain. Valentino too talks about this when he confesses, in the interview with news reporter Alma Whitaker, granted on the set of Cobra, that he caused immense pain to his mother.

With regard to birth dates and documents we share, these only become reality as they are reported in the civil archives which I do not believe Mr. Terhune has ever accessed himself. These are what we reference. I ask why is there a note in the Santeramo in Colle birth registry, with the address of Jean's birth/residency as his maternal grandparents at via Nizza 9 in Turin?

For some it may be normal to imagine that a mother and her new born faced an uncomfortable train journey of over twelve hours on the day of the birth. I do not think that happened. Ask yourself some serious questions Tracy Terhune and stop defending your indefensible theses by accusing us of perverse manias. It is defamatory that Terhune's absurd and false conclusions are made about us and our work at all but he does this on the blog he runs under the title of the book he so hates.

Evelyn and I do not invent anything, we do not write fiction nor mistake prejudice and innuendo for fact. It is obvious we only report the results of our honest research and in every instance we share our sources. We never lie, have no reason to do so and do not hide behind unlikely pseudonyms having conversations with ourselves as we are accused. We live our lives, personally and professionally in the daylight. We do not hate anyone, but we do pity he who insists on denying the documented facts.

To the purists of the English language, I apologize for my artisan but sincere language."


33 comments:

  1. Bravo! Mr. Floris, you could not have written a better letter than this on the blog. Do they think they fool anyone with their phoney names? The only people that they fool is themselves, indeed seeing how they carry on with their lies. It would be a triumph if they translated the book in other languages. Such as Spanish, German , French .

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    1. They can barely communicate in English. 😏

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    2. I think I would trust Evelyn and Renato Floris, along with Jeanine Villalobos, before I would take the word of a porn fiction writer and his mentor.

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    3. Mr. Terhune has an audience of one: the porn fiction writer. Pretending to be host to a pair of inquisitive fans is laughable. Said PFW appears in other venues under the same nom de plume

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    4. Albert Batista Morris was one of them.

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    5. He also has a thing for German females. I guess pretending to be a Fraulein from the Vaterland makes him feel closer to his imaginary friend, Marlene Dietrich.

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  2. The Terhune/Brett partnership sinks quickly when they are challenged to explain in a why they believe what they do. They are so twisted about RV that they make the narrative of his life fit their projections. They do not believe in rigorous study and research....only what they want to believe.
    I was listening to another podcast which referenced Brett's book on Clark Gable. The hosts were looking at what would be a good biography of Gable to read for someone wanting to learn more about him. One of them laughed and said Brett's book is DEFINITELY NOT the one because it's full of lies and soft porn. Also that Brett makes no citations to back up his claims and his version of Gable's story is coming out purely from Brett's imagination. I think Brett has no room to criticize the scholarly work of serious writers like the Floris'. Classy that Terhune has hitched his wagon to Brett.

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    1. For many years Terhune distanced himself from Bret but that is over and has been for a long time. Bret writes the same book over and over and the Gable book was more of the same. Gable's daughter was alive at the time and defended her father to Bret who of course attacked her horribly. When she passed away he celebrated. I have a letter from her and treasure it. She was a great lady.

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    2. No wonder Terhune will not provide a link to his blog on WNF. When the only person you can get to comment on your deep thoughts is the detested David Bret, you definitely want to keep that a secret.

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    3. "Line the litter box " with pages of his books, that is how bad he writes. I agree Bret should go to jail for the pain he has given others. Along with Terhune.

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  3. I've had the misfortune of stumbling upon Bret's Twitter feed. If you want to get inside the head of a truly warped person, just scroll down on that a bit. There is never anything positive that he posts and most of it is rather disturbing. It's another platform for his gross personality that you find on Terhune's blog...only ramped up to an even worse level (if that's possible).

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    1. David Bret belongs in jail for what he did and does every day to innocent people.

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    2. Agree 100% especially what he did to Judy Lewis.

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    3. Could not agree with you more on that Evelyn, all the pain he causes to people.

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    4. Bret does attempt to cause others pain....all for his own sick reasons. But don't you think that most of the world has simply tuned him out and written him off for the lunatic that he is?

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    5. He is still at it, violating a court order not to mention us online and this done on Terhune's blog. He also owes us about 60,000$ and counting and he does not "attempt" to cause people pain, he does. If he has been tuned out it is because he uses aliases which imo the administrators of both Terhune's FB groups know very well. Yes, thankfully he has been exposed for who he really is but he got away with so much. I am proud of the fact we sued him for defamation and won the case and I think his downfall was to try and pretend that never happened. It did.

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    6. I've never understood why Terhune lets Bret run wild on his blog. Terhune otherwise tries hard to project a level of respectability with his memorial service, etc..(whether it works or not is debatable). However, it's all shot to hell IMO by allowing the pornographer free reign on his blog.

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    7. I do not think Terhune can "project a level of respectability" at all running that blog all these years, whether Bret is on it or not. It is only because so few people know what he does there that he has not been removed from every post. His threats, his accusations, his ageist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic posts about us there and the entire purpose of it. Why has he and why does he still run a blog under the title of a book he hates with all his heart for a decade? Not so mysterious at all. imo no respectability at all. Quite the opposite.

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    8. How rich that Terhune, an aged gay man, traffics in the hurling of ageist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic insults! One would think a lifetime of being mocked, bullied and discriminated against would have instilled in him the practice of compassion.

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    9. Yes... he finds it hilarious to write how we are "sipping Ensure", how no one will miss us when we are gone, "tick tock tick tock", calls Renato the "man who wears a dress", and "child star 72", I am the "madwoman of Turin" who writes, "fan girl fiction" and he permits Bret to go on with his using gay stereotypes for lesbians as insults. I could go on and on because we have a couple of hard drives full of the screenshots.

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    10. Jesus, that is beyond belief! He is sixtyfreakin’five!! He is part of the Medicare population and Ensure’s target consumer group! What a colossal fool to lack fundamental awareness of self.

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    11. 8:22 PM --- You are right that an aged gay man like Terhune might be expected to have a sense of heightened compassion toward other human beings...given the struggles in the past that gay people have had to endure. Yet people sometimes respond differently to these kind of circumstances. Sometimes that same person whom you hope would be compassionate has instead turned into a bitter and angry soul. It would seem that Terhune has become the latter. I think that goes a long way in understanding his disturbing hostility toward Evelyn and Renato. It may not even be so much about them as it's about his own dark interior state.

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    12. I am not in total agreement with your analysis and frankly I do not care what their reasons are for acting the way that they do. It is deplorable and should not be rewarded. I think it is bottom line all about me saying Valentino was not gay. Add to that I said that Ullman was a hero and Rambova made Valentino who he was, etc. Instead of embracing new information and documentation, Terhune established himself in opposition immediately. He did not want to welcome any new vantage points and set out to bury/defame Affairs Valentino as fast as he could. He is still working hard at that.

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    13. I just saw this discussion and I am sorry that Renato and Evelyn must endure these nasty people...and for so many years! I cannot imagine what it must be like to try to approach a subject with only the intent of sharing the fruits of hard research and then having that rejected so horribly and unfairly.
      Terhune is an irrational bully who cannot accept the evolution of knowledge about Valentino if it doesn't fit his "Rudy Was Gay" narrative. Rather than live a healthy lifestyle as a member of the LGBTQ+ community, Terhune needs an image of Valentino of his own creation to soothe his ego needs. He also is extremely misogynistic and that comes through loud and clear on his disgusting blog. To paraphrase another commentor sometime back: Bret is in a whole different category that there simply are no words for due to his ingrained vile nature.
      Evelyn and Renato...I hope that will continue to fight the good fight and keep the flame of Valentino's legacy alive! Let Terhune and Bret (and their lackeys) be damned!


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    14. The Crying of Lot 49June 10, 2022 at 12:55 AM

      Jackie Oh, your insight is brilliant! You have isolated precisely what it is that I find so offensive about Terhune - his violent dedication to snuffing out progress and his willful ignorance. And yes, one wonders why he must cling to his warped fantasy version of Valentino and put thousands upon thousands of dollars and decades of his life behind it, when there is a saner LBGTQ+ lifestyle to pursue, presumably with living men.

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    15. Agreed with The Crying of Lot 49 - Jackie Oh! has hit the nail on the head!
      Terhune: Get a life outside of lusting after ghosts!

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  4. Gravity’s RainbowJune 9, 2022 at 6:47 PM

    Terhune has no business presenting himself as a pious, openminded community cultivator. He is a viper in a far too small T shirt and age inappropriate bad haircut. He has too long a record of verbally pistol whipping members of his forum who disagree with his creepy take on Rambova to fool anyone. And I have lost count of the number of times he has quietly deleted the posts of those who have dared to inquire about Zumaya’s books, or extract from them without mentioning her name. Perhaps most sickening of all though is his provision of sordid sanctuary to the porn fiction author whose Tweeting activity is the equivalent of indecently exposing himself in the middle of the town square to the utter indifference of passerby.

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    1. I would have no problem with wardrobe or haircuts but Terhune took this in the absolute wrong direction long ago and has never changed course. It could have been a friendly discourse of ideas and discoveries but he opened the gate day one with anger and launched a campaign to make us look like liars, forgers, fiction writers and disreputable people... all a massive projection of his and his buddies' behavior. He was not welcoming when I first announced my discoveries nor so lovely at all and it took me years to connect the dots. We have proof he was sending information to Bret as far back as 2010 but then telling him not to reveal his name as source. It all could have been different without his driven agenda to erase us and all our work off the face of the earth. In fact his mean-spirited efforts had the opposite effect. The quickest way to get someone to read a book is to tell them not to.

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    2. DB is ruined and he brought the ruin on himself, acting so innocently that he is the victim and that he is being stalked. Just how stupid does he think people are? DB needs to be put in his place and he is not thick skinned as he claims that he is, he cannot take criticism about his work and he stinks as an author.

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  5. Counting My PenniesJune 9, 2022 at 8:25 PM

    What was the term that Michael Morris used to describe the Porn Fiction Writer (Bret) and the Crypt Keeper (Terhune) .... "The Devil's Brigade"?

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    1. Michael Morris used to call them, "Satan's Angels" or the "Devil's Brigade".

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    2. "Satan's Angels" & "The Devil's Brigade" are very accurate names for Terhune and Bret. I would add another name: "The Demonic Duo".

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  6. Here's some free advice to TRT and other collectors of photographs: Just because you purchased a photograph, does not mean you own that image, particularly if it is one that has already been included in a book or has been available on the internet for 20 years. The only person to whom the image belongs is the original photographer. Stop whining about other people "stealing" images that you claim belong to you. You didn't take the photo,
    therefore, the image is not yours to possess.

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