Monday, January 10, 2022

Painfully Injured

I find it interesting how many mishaps there were within the first two weeks after Rudolph Valentino sent Natacha Rambova packing. If anyone dares to claim theirs was an arranged and platonic marriage, they are quickly disproven by the events and emotions during those couple of weeks. 
By the time Valentino was crumpled by this horse, (see below) he had already changed his will and left it all to Jean, attempted suicide, been caught speeding with three people and all were drunk including the woman with him. 
I bet filming did not stop to let Rudy lick his wounds after this bruising. And I bet the runaway horse got no time off either. The date on these articles is September 9, 1925. It does not seem to be such a great time for either Rudy or Natacha.






26 comments:

  1. Like Adela Rogers St. John stated in her 1978 book My Hollywood, when Rudy and Natacha split up the main spring in Rudy's life was broken.

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    1. I believe that Adele and Rudy were friends. She definitely claims that Rudy and Natacha were in love.

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    2. Adela is discounted by certain so-called experts, but she was there and she knew both Valentino and Rambova very well. In fact, Rambova mentions Adela St. Johns in a beautiful letter she wrote to Valentino about the poems in Daydreams.

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    3. Absolutely everyone who knew Valentino and Rambova testified to their genuine love even Alberto. IMO the Rambova haters today picked up on the press at the time trying to sensationalize a celebrity divorce. The copy from those days is so incredibly sexist but it is paraded about by Terhune, Bret and Constable as the ringleaders of the "Valentino was gay" cult. It makes no historical sense at all for them to continue other than for them to admit the Valentino and Rambova marriage was a real one would be the end of their entire agenda. They undo the actual history and dare to claim to know more than all the people who knew Valentino and Rambova.

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    4. Cannot understand why these people say that their marriage was platonic when there is a mountain of evidence to claim by friends that they lived each other. They hate Natacha because it proves Rudy loved her.

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    5. Loved each other i mean

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  2. It's very sad. I wish they would have worked things out. It's especially poignant that the last time they saw each other was when they kissed for the cameras in front of the train. He ran along next to the train as it began to move and then she never saw him again. It was melodramatic enough to have been a scene taken right out of a movie. Only, it wasn't a movie.

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  3. Very sad indeed , if only things had been different.

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  4. Could it be that Rambova had mentally and spiritually drained everything possible out of Rudy and that's why he ended up a mess at this time? It's difficult to accept the narrative that she had contributed positively to his life...the opposite seems to have been true both personally and professionally.

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    1. Well after researching and studying the lives of these two people for many years, I completely disagree. They did reconcile before his death and I think there were greater issues that drove them apart. She was also a mess and maybe more and more likely he drained her. I do not understand why it is difficult to understand because she made the man who he was and her career was destroyed by her marriage to him. Facts.

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    2. When they broke up Valentino was at the top of his profession and she was destroyed. How ludicrous to say she impacted him professionally in any way but positively. We know this because people like me have spent a great deal of time researching what really happened and presented the evidence. It is sad to me that the propaganda perpetuated by Terhune and Bret and Constable is so pervasive because they have it all wrong. Michael Morris was right Natacha Rambova was "the woman behind the myth" and the best thing that ever happened to Rudolph Valentino. Your comment is ill-informed.

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    3. Your comment makes Valentino look like an idiot and a puppet. He was with the woman because he loved her and when they had to break up they did. It was traumatic for both of them. The entire "Valentino as everyone's victim" is insulting to him and inaccurate.

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    4. There are opinions to be had but considering that I co-authored Beyond Valentino, wrote Astral Affairs Rambova and Affairs Valentino... maybe I can ask why you come on this blog to trash Rambova to me? Maybe you should read the books and be informed before doing so because this is a non discussion issue for me. There will be no trashing of that woman here because there has been far too much. I stand for her positive legacy and the amazing body of work she left behind. If you want to trash talk Natacha Rambova you can head on over to Mad About the Boy or We never Forget. They are still hanging on to the false and unfounded narrative about her over there.

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    5. Evelyn and Renato are great authors and researchers. Michael Morris did a great job writing about Natacha I have his book and he was a brilliant writer. Read that book if you want to know more about her.

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    6. I admitted I was not fond of Natacha either but when Evelyn found out things about her I realized that she was a victim of haters. Her story is finally told.

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  5. I don't believe Rudy neither an idiot or a puppet. I do believe that he was a trusting (and somewhat naive) soul who was used continually throughout his life. The studios used him. The press certainly not only used but also abused him. Some whom he allowed into his life in his relationships also used him for their own ends. IMHO, Rambova was one of them.
    I'm not asking for agreement. I'm just sharing my thoughts and certainly respect those of others.

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    1. Have you read any of the work we have done on this? Any of our books? it is not a question of agreement but facts and documentation which we painstakingly shared over many years. Maybe do some research into our research and you would see the bigger picture. Natacha did not use Valentino for her own "ends", she lost her career entirely from her marriage to Valentino and I consider the belief she did anything but elevate Valentino just misogyny. Always was and still is.

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  6. We do not deal with opinions but have made deductions based on research and documentation. After you read some of the books we have published then we can have a discussion but until then I feel it is just provocation based on opinions which are biased.

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    1. Think biased opinions are narrow mindedness.

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  7. Hmmmm. I will lay you odds that “Etienne” shares DNA with a certain forum scold who recently and spectacularly fell from grace after a trouncing by his patron. This individual has a history of assuming French male names and haunting the forums (Andre Daven anyone?). He is here only to provoke.

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    1. My thoughts exactly I think we know who this person is. You are transparent and is here to anger people. Etienne has given themselves away..

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  8. Not sure who the "forum "scold" is that you mention...or what that even means. If it would help members here feel more comfortable due to issues of suspicion, I can use the English variant of my name: "Steven". I realize that using my real name name and not simply remaining "Anonymous" is a break from the norm amongst the respondents here. I could go "Anonymous" I suppose but that would seem confusing since everyone except Mrs. Zumaya seems to be nameless here.
    I'm here because I'm a longtime Valentino fan and was interested in learning more about the project being advanced here. I don't believe in relying only upon the perception of others in the larger Valentino community which, as you know, is not favorable. I've been listening to the audiobook version of AFFAIRS VALENTINO and simply wanted to participate in the conversation here.

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    1. Well I think we have a bullseye here. I ask, why did David Bret post about "Stephen" on his Twitter account hours before I even received this comment from "Stephen"? I think the expression is, "getting the horse before the cart." "Stephen" might want to take a deep breath and be a tad more thoughtful about the sequencing of his subterfuge. Done.

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    2. Wow. If only these people were as clever as they think they are.

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  9. Adela Rogers St Johns and many other contemporaries would "testify" on the love between Rudy and Natacha în their memoirs/books. It's quite clear that Valentino was heartbroken after his divorce from Natacha. I am glad that at least before his death, they have reconciled. A moving, pasionate, yet tragic live story

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  10. Repeating the lies does not make it the truth. Read that somewhere.

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