Monday, May 30, 2022

Not Where They Belong

I am reposting this letter below in light of the comments on the previous posts. It was shocking for me to at last find the missing Valentino probate case file and then be told the family would not share them "with me or anyone". This, when they are rightfully public property. "Where they belong", is not with the Valentino family but in the archive to which they are assigned. 

So very much information about Rudolph Valentino's business, his personal life, Ullman's performance as executor, and so much more is contained within that file. It is disgusting to me that this shady underbelly in the Valentino world even exists, where the truth about Valentino is hidden away from his public and the narrative controlled according to the various agendas of the collectors and the family. Where they felt safe to lie for decades about Ullman, about Alberto Valentino and much more because they thought no one could fact check what they said. 

I guess they did not understand that when Ullman filed his appeals case, some 1000 pages of that original file was officially copied and waiting for me to find it. 

It has been many years since I first discovered what these people do to manipulate the narrative of Valentino's life. Not much has changed. Except maybe the appearance of a few more people traipsing along, with no moral compass, doing all they can to be accepted as one of the mob. 

Here is my previous post and I did not forge this document. How could I when it is preserved forever on two e-mail servers? The e-mail was sent to me on September 1, 2003 and I printed it out on May 19, 2004. Bill Self did tell me who had the file before it was surrendered to the Alberto Valentino family in exchange for that one shirt. 

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Well Valentino collector Bill Self kind of slipped up here in this e-mail. He seldom sent me e-mails and would always call.. to I guess avoid something like this happening. Or did he want this to happen? 

Here (see below) he tells me that the Alberto Valentino spokeswoman Jeanine Villalobos was in receipt of the stolen case file of Valentino's probate court records and has the gall to tell me that this is, "where they belong".

No Bill, those records are public record and belong in the Los Angeles County Hall of Records for all to see. Now Self's e-mail was confirmed of course by Donna Hill when she told me the same and added that Ms. Villalobos exchanged one of Valentino's shirts for the case file.

Bear in mind George Ullman's son Bob...at the time was terminally ill and wanting to know the truth about his father's tenure as executor which was contained in that case file. Hence why I was trying to find those records for him. Bill Self knew that... and still they hid those records from a dying man. 

In this e-mail, Bill Self told me he waived the purchase of that shipping case/sarcophagus...when in fact I would learn later on, he already owned it. 



24 comments:

  1. I wonder if the information contained in the records changed Ms. Villalobos' decision to write her book?

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    1. Well undoubtedly after I found the copies. Before that no one knew but the collectors. This exchange took place before I found the Appeals Court records.

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    2. Poster at 4:42, it certainly seems likely. Something reversed Villalobos’ plans to produce a book, and the contents of the probate files is as potent a candidate as anything. Considering the years of effort and research that production of her Phd must have entailed, discontinuation of the book can only have been a preemptive move to forestall embarrassment of Alberto’s family. Accordingly, strategically cutting Rudy’s story off at 1920 - years before Ullman and Alberto met - solved the problem.

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    3. Self’s email is damn depressing. It lays bare how devoid of scruples they all were/are. Just disgusting. And by “they” I mean Self, the collectors, “the family” and all those they bribed.

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    4. I found it odd how profusely Ms. Villalobos thanked Bill Self in her Phd. He also told me at one point she did not want him talking to me anymore. He obeyed. I was grateful he told me that because since then I have understood the family has some power over the collectors. Not sure how that works but he admitted that. Rudy relics are a currency whether photos, shirts or records.

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    5. It has been devastating to spend years being accused of forging those records when they all know they exist. And by "they" I mean Terhune, Villalobos, Hill and the rest. No one said a word for years on end while they pounded away how I forged it all. Even today one idiot is sure I forged some pages. I would invite her to review the file and she will find it all there. And then I would invite her to shut up... subject closed.

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    6. Are not some of these documents on microfilm now?

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    7. 6:35, yes they are. Including the second page of the will.

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    8. Little Nellie KellyMay 31, 2022 at 12:32 AM

      The dinks of the VCS who accuse you of forgery know better. It's just an amateur means of deflection from the truth. I wouldn't take anything they say seriously, especially the endless bellyaching from the few thrown out of the VCS. Talk about hitting rock bottom!

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    9. There is no taking them seriously because it is just another reflection of their insanity.

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  2. Are they not on the internet as well?

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  3. Not good news for the family.

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  4. One certain person certainly made a fool out of herself on the other post.

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  5. I am more and more intrigued and baffled by the Valentino 's family attitude. It makes me Wonder what do they have to hide? Other than The fact that Alberto received so much money during Rudy' s life and after his death and that George Ullman was a Hero în the way he was a friend of Valentino and how he handled The legacy (financially and with the fans)? Probably its The love Child story they are trying to keep hidden: The fact that Jean was Rudy's son. That would be a plausible explanation : a dark family secret, a love child and probably with his future Sister în law Ada.

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    1. Yes. I would agree. When Ada first met Rudy she worked as a stage dancer in Taranto. Alberto would sacrifice his law school education to marry her as the older and more stable of the two Guglielmi brothers and one then of legal age. But I think the family in more invested in hiding the decades of lies told about Ullman. That was one of the most surprising things to learn as I first read through the records. Ullmans' innocence is still rejected by the followers of the old narrative, even though it is now proven to be otherwise.

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    2. At least , Ullman's children knew the truth about their father.

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  6. Does the liquid ring from a drink have any significance in this "real" email from Bill Pelf?

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    1. Wow. So let me get this straight. You think e-mails are on paper? No, you have to print them out. And it was many years ago so I have forgotten what I set down on the print but it does not affect the content. It is a "real" print out of the digital e-mail and unless you are a forger by trade, your obsession with doubting documents makes me think you need to seek professional help. Its not healthy.

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    2. 10:54 PM :
      Yet another nice try, Cuz.
      I know that Ms. Zumaya must get a lot of these kind of dumbass comments. Personally, I'd encourage continuing to publish them from time to time. They show the true ignorance of the VSC and it's membership for what it is.

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    3. I do get a lot of these "dumbass comments". I deleted several about this self e-mail before this one arrived. The overriding unpleasantness with them all is of course that these sad sacks send them in at all.

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  7. 10:54 Another dumbass remark.

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    1. Go Tell it on the MountainMay 31, 2022 at 3:05 AM

      The “dumbass” comments are the handiwork of the two most reviled (and, not incidentally, physically grotesque) members of the VSC. Both complete nutters who are unwanted everywhere they go. Their compulsive pounding on the door of this blog is driven by the lifelong experience of worthlessness. They are both neurologically deformed, bitter and hateful as the day is long.

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